Vectron PSŽ 193 820 (HU)

DJ LA DÉFENSE · 5 úno 2016

Zdravím, kolegové,

chci se zeptat, zkoušel jste někdo rozchodit tento model Vectrona?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Ehs6mnnEBnTVdpU3R4U1pmWHc/view?pref=2&pli=1

Mám problém, že po rozbalení ho zařadím do soupravy, ale v MSTS mi ho nedokáže najít. Žádná chybová hláška, žádný pád. Zkrátka consists s ním, pro MSTS neexistuje. Nemá někdo nějakou zkušenost? Bohužel nemůžu přijít na to, co se mu na tom modelu nelíbí. Zkoušel jsem psát i do nějaké maďarské diskuze, ale bohužel bez efektu. (je pro mě problém trochu popisovat toto v angličtině).

dvacka · 5 úno 2016

Ahoj. Nebude to tim, ze je udelany pro ORTS a tedy MSTS si s nim nevi rady?

zbynda · 5 úno 2016

Je asi potreba upravit eng. Zkus vzit eng z stareho modelu vectrona a dopasovat ho k novemu

alcapone · 5 úno 2016

Když je něco uděláno jen pro OR tak to MSTS neveme, už to pochopte. Obráceně to prostě nejde.

DJ LA DÉFENSE · 5 úno 2016

No bylo to v sekci MSTS, tak mě nenapadlo, že to je pro OR. Respektive nikde jsem si toho nevšiml. Mimochodem, jak jste na to přišli?

dvacka · 5 úno 2016

Nedavno se to resilo na FB, takze jsem si uvedomil, ze mas zrejme stejny problem

DJ LA DÉFENSE · 5 úno 2016

Aha. no já na FB jsem už moc starej a nepoužívám ho

Mimochodem, když už jsem to tu zaplevil zbytečným dotazem (za což se omlouvám) dá se nějak rozlišit třeba v engu, zda se jedná o OR nebo MSTS? Zkrátka jak poznám, že daná věc je jen pro OR.

dvacka · 5 úno 2016

Myslim, ze to zbytecny dotaz nebyl. Zde na foru se to asi jeste neresilo, tak aspon to i dalsi budou vedet

poison · 5 úno 2016

DJ LA DÉFENSE napsal:
No bylo to v sekci MSTS, tak mě nenapadlo, že to je pro OR. Respektive nikde jsem si toho nevšiml. Mimochodem, jak jste na to přišli?

Co chceš od maďara. Napíše MSTS a zbytek je mu fuk.

dem · 6 úno 2016

Je to tam napísané.

DJ LA DÉFENSE · 6 úno 2016

No podíval jsem se pořádně na ten odkaz a našel jsem to tam, škoda, že mě to nenapadlo hned na začátku. Já jak pitomec marně hledal něco v textovém souboru modelu. No nevadí, ale je hezkej

alcapone · 6 úno 2016

Sice te v sekci MSTS, ale pod ni je sekce OR a modelář dělá pro OR. Nejde jen o eng, je i jinak udělám model. Víc by asi řekl Pikku, jakej je rozdíl mezi modelem pro OR a MSTS. A proč škoda, si nainstaluj OR a zajezdi si.

Plexi · 6 úno 2016

Já zase mám problém s tím, že je "neviditelný" - když jej tvořím v editoru souprav v MSTS. Je to taky tím, že je do OR, nebo je chyba jinde?

dem · 6 úno 2016

Zrejme ano. Eng pre Or je iný.

alcapone · 6 úno 2016

Plexi napsal:
Já zase mám problém s tím, že je "neviditelný" - když jej tvořím v editoru souprav v MSTS. Je to taky tím, že je do OR, nebo je chyba jinde?

Jak jinak to napsat, aby jsi to pochopil. Pokud je něco uděláno pro OR, tak to MSTS neveme. Celá stránka je tu o tom a ty se zeptáš znova. Eng a textura je udělána pro specifikaci OR ne MSTS. Pokud chceš soupravu, nainstaluj si Conbuilder, ten vidí i eng pro OR. Tedy pokud chcete aktivitu s touto mašinou, musíte tam zařadit jinou pro MSTS a pak v Conbuildru ji vyměnit a můžete jet v OR.

Dan J. · 7 úno 2016

Hlavně, i kdyby jste tu mašinu do MSTS dostali, tak 32 kujus MSTS nedá i kdyby se rozkrájel...

Ondras8_CZ · 27 kvě 2016

Dobrý den, stáhl jsem si vectrona a když jsem vytvořil soupravu, v trainstroru se zobrazil, ale v msts již nikoliv. Kde je chyba? Zde je ENG

Kód:

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    AirBrakesMainMinResAirPressure ( 5.5bar )
    AirBrakesAirUsedPerPoundsOfBrakePipePressure ( 1.5 )
    AirBrakesHasLowPressureTest ( 1 )
    AirBrakesIsCompressorElectricOrMechanical ( 0 )
    BrakesEngineControllers ( "Independent, Dynamic, Train" )
    BrakesEngineBrakeType ( "Air_twin_pipe"  )
    BrakesTrainBrakeType ( "Air_twin_pipe" )
    DoesBrakeCutPower ( 0 )
    EngineBrakesControllerDirectControlExponent ( 1 )
    EngineBrakesControllerHasProportionalBrake ( 0 )
    EngineBrakesControllerMaxReleaseRate ( 12 )
    EngineBrakesControllerMaxApplicationRate ( 10 )
    EngineBrakesControllerEmergencyApplicationRate ( 14 )
    EngineBrakesControllerMinSystemPressure ( 0 )
    EngineBrakesControllerMaxSystemPressure ( 3.8bar )
    EngineBrakesControllerFullServicePressureDrop ( 0.0bar )
    EngineBrakesProportionalBrakeLag ( 0.8 )
    TrainBrakesControllerMaxQuickReleaseRate ( 4.5 )
    TrainBrakesControllerMaxReleaseRate ( 4.0 )
    TrainBrakesControllerMaxApplicationRate ( 3.0 )
    TrainBrakesControllerEmergencyApplicationRate ( 18 )
    TrainBrakesControllerMinPressureReduction ( 4.5 )
    TrainBrakesControllerFullServicePressureDrop ( 1.6bar )
    TrainBrakesControllerMinSystemPressure ( 0 )
    TrainBrakesControllerMaxSystemPressure ( 73 )
    TrainBrakesControllerEmergencyBrakeTimePenalty ( 0 )
    TrainPipeLeakRate ( 0.033 )
    DynamicBrakesResistorCurrentLimit ( 1200 )
    DynamicBrakesDelayTimeBeforeEngaging ( 0 )
    DynamicBrakesNumberOfControllerNotches ( 10 )
    DynamicBrakesMaxAirBrakePressure ( 55 )
    DynamicBrakeHasAutoBailOff ( 0 )
    DynamicBrakesMaximumForce ( 150kN )
    DynamicBrakesHigherSpeedCurveExponent ( 2 )
    DynamicBrakesLowerSpeedCurveExponent ( 2 )
    DynamicBrakesMaximumSpeedForFadeOut ( 430 )
    DynamicBrakesMaximumEffectiveSpeed ( 97 )
    DynamicBrakesFadingSpeed ( 9 )
    DynamicBrakesMinUsableSpeed ( 2 )
    DynamicBrakesCutInSpeed ( 2 )
    DynamicBrakesCutOutSpeed ( 2 )
    DynamicBrakesEffectAtMaximumFadeOut ( 1 )
OverspeedMonitor (
    MonitoringDeviceMonitorTimeLimit ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAlarmTimeLimit ( 5 )
    MonitoringDevicePenaltyTimeLimit ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceCriticalLevel ( 165 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetLevel ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceTriggerOnHighCurrent ( 1250 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesFullBrake ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesEmergencyBrake ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesCutsPower ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesShutsDownEngine ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAlarmTimeBeforeOverSpeed ( 10 )
    MonitoringDeviceDoesSuppressionReset ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnZeroSpeed ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnDirectionNeutral ( 1 )
)
VigilanceMonitor (
    MonitoringDeviceMonitorTimeLimit ( 31.2 )
    MonitoringDeviceAlarmTimeLimit ( 23 )
    MonitoringDevicePenaltyTimeLimit ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceCriticalLevel ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetLevel ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesFullBrake ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesEmergencyBrake ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesCutsPower ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesShutsDownEngine ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnZeroSpeed ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnResetButton ( 1 )
)
EmergencyStopMonitor (
    MonitoringDeviceMonitorTimeLimit ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAlarmTimeLimit ( 0 )
    MonitoringDevicePenaltyTimeLimit ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceCriticalLevel ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetLevel ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesFullBrake ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesEmergencyBrake ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesCutsPower ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesShutsDownEngine ( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnZeroSpeed ( 1 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnResetButton ( 1 )
)
         
EngineControllers (
    Throttle ( 0 1 0.2 0
        NumNotches ( 1
            Notch ( 0 1 Dummy )
        )
    )
     Brake_Dynamic ( 0 1 0.2 0
        NumNotches ( 0 )
    )
    Brake_Engine ( 0 1 0.1 0
        NumNotches ( 1
            Notch ( 0       1 Dummy )                   
        )
    )
    Brake_Train ( 0 1 0.1 0.2
        NumNotches ( 6
            Notch ( 0.0 0 TrainBrakesControllerFullQuickReleaseStart )
            Notch ( 0.1 0 TrainBrakesControllerReleaseStart )
            Notch ( 0.2 0 TrainBrakesControllerNeutralhandleOffStart )
            Notch ( 0.3 1 TrainBrakesControllerGraduatedSelfLapLimitedHoldingStart )
            Notch ( 0.9 0 TrainBrakesControllerSuppressionStart )
            Notch ( 1.0 0 TrainBrakesControllerEmergencyStart )
        )
    )
    Combined_Control( 0 1 0.125 0 throttle dynamic )
    AWS ( 0 1 0 )
    BailOffButton( 0 1 0 )
    BellToggle( 0 1 0 )
    DirControl ( -1 0 1 1 )
    EmergencyStopResetToggle( 0 1 0 )
    EmergencyStopToggle( 0 1 0 )
    Headlights ( 0 0.25 1 0 )
    Horn ( 0 1 0 )
    Sanding ( 0 1 0 )
    Vigilance ( 0 1 0 )
    Wipers ( 0 1 0 )
   )
Description (
    "Gyártó: Siemens AG\n\n"+
    "Gyártási típus: X4e\n\n"+
    "Gyártási év: 2010-\n\n"+
    "Áramnem: 15 kV / 16,7 Hz és 25 kV / 50 Hz\n\n"+
    "Állandó teljesítmény: 1.640 kW x4 (6,4MW)\n\n"+
    "Jármű maximumsebesség: 200 km/h\n\n"+
    "Új kerékátmérő 1.150 mm\n\n"+
    "Legnagyobb magasság (Leengedett áramszedő mellett): 3.860 mm\n\n"+
    "Legnagyobb szélesség (mozdonyszekrény): 3.012 mm\n\n"+
    "Legnagyobb hosszúság (ütközök közötti): 18.980 mm\n\n"+
    "Szolgálati tömeg új kerékpárokkal 2/3 homokkiszereléssel: 87t ± 1%\n\n"+
    "Tengelyelrendezés Bo’Bo’"
)
)

alcapone · 28 kvě 2016

Ach jo, náhodou nebylo tam u toho vektrona na jaký simulátor je. Není tam náhodou pro OR.

Ondras8_CZ · 28 kvě 2016

Řekl bych, že ne, je to MSTS stránka http://users.ininet.hu/msts-teamclu...temid=288&view=viewdownload&catid=108&cid=527

poison · 28 kvě 2016

Ano, ale taky je tam toto:

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